For Referring Clinicians

A trusted home for the EMDR work your clients have been waiting for.

For therapists who don't practice EMDR, IFS, or Brainspotting — a collaborative intensive pathway with Nancy Phung-Smith, LMFT. Your client does the deep trauma processing here, then returns to you to integrate it.

Stacked stones and a dried branch on warm linen — symbolizing grounded, integrative therapy

Nancy Phung-Smith, LMFT 131818 — EMDRIA Certified

EMDRIA CertifiedIFS-InformedBrainspotting TrainedC-PTSD SpecialistAdjunct Care Model

Why refer

You've built the relationship. We hold the trauma processing.

Many of your clients have read about EMDR. They've asked about it. They sense there's something — a memory, a pattern, a body response — that talk therapy alone hasn't reached. An intensive offers a focused, time-bound container to move through that material, without disrupting the therapeutic relationship they have with you.

Adjunct, not replacement

Intensives are designed as a parallel, time-limited engagement. Your client remains your client.

Targeted processing

Half-day, full-day, or multi-day formats focused on a specific event, pattern, or stuck point.

Closed-loop handoff

A clinical summary returns with your client so the integration work continues seamlessly in your sessions.

The Modalities

Reaching what has been avoided, dissociated, or held below words.

Each intensive is sequenced with the modality — or combination — best matched to your client's presentation, nervous system, and goals.

EMDR

Eye Movement Desensitization & Reprocessing

An evidence-based protocol that helps the brain reprocess traumatic memories at a neurobiological level. Particularly suited for single-incident trauma, attachment wounds, and intrusive memories that talk alone hasn't resolved.

IFS

Internal Family Systems

A parts-based approach that gently meets protectors and exiles. Effective for clients who feel internally divided, self-critical, or who describe 'a part of me' that keeps them stuck despite insight.

Brainspotting

Brainspotting

A somatic, brain-body modality that accesses material held below conscious awareness — useful when a client knows something is 'there' but can't put words to it, or when traditional cognitive approaches plateau.

The Pathway

What the referral looks like, step by step.

  1. 01

    Curiosity

    Your client mentions EMDR or you sense an intensive could move something the weekly format can't. You share this referral.

  2. 02

    Clinician Consultation

    A 30-minute consult — clinician-to-clinician or with your client — to assess fit, discuss history, and align on goals.

  3. 03

    Goal Setting & Preparation

    We define a clear target: a specific memory, pattern, or somatic stuck point. Resourcing and stabilization happen before processing.

  4. 04

    The Intensive

    Half-day, full-day, or multi-day. Sustained, titrated processing using EMDR, IFS, and/or Brainspotting.

  5. 05

    Return to Your Care

    A written clinical summary and integration recommendations come back with your client — so you can continue the work in weekly sessions.

Example Referrals

When an intensive is the right next step.

The Stalled Plateau

A 38-year-old client you've worked with for 18 months has made meaningful gains around her relationship patterns, but a single childhood incident keeps surfacing in dreams and won't shift through cognitive work.

A 2-day EMDR intensive targeting that specific memory. She returns to your weekly sessions with the charge reduced — ready to integrate the relational learnings she'd already begun with you.

The Curious Client

A new-ish client has read about EMDR online and keeps asking if it's right for him. You're not trained in it, and don't want to lose the rapport you've built.

A clinician consultation, then a half-day Brainspotting + EMDR intensive. He continues weekly therapy with you throughout — the intensive is an adjunct, not a transfer.

The Body That Knows

Your client describes a 'wall' — she knows something is there from childhood but can't access it. Talk therapy circles it. Her nervous system tightens whenever it's approached.

A multi-day intensive sequencing IFS and Brainspotting to gently approach what's been protectively held. Pacing is titrated; safety is the priority.

Is It a Fit?

A simple way to know when to bring an intensive in.

A quick decision tree for the moments you're weighing whether an adjunct intensive could support the work you're already doing.

Is your client asking for — or showing signs of needing — deeper trauma work?
No — talk therapy is moving things

Keep going. Revisit if a plateau appears.

Yes — something is stuck or asking for more
Are you trained in EMDR, IFS, or Brainspotting?
Yes — handle in session
No — refer for an intensive
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Collaboration, not handoff

The work is better when we hold it together.

Our clients benefit when we stop working in isolation. Building a small, trusted referral community around each person — therapists, specialists, modalities — is how meaningful change becomes durable change.

Two clinicians, one client

You stay the primary therapeutic relationship. I hold a focused, time-bound container for the trauma processing — then hand the thread back to you.

Open clinical communication

With your client's consent: a pre-intensive call to align on goals, and a written summary after. We talk like colleagues, not like a black box.

A community of care

Referring isn't outsourcing — it's expanding the team around your client. The best outcomes happen when therapists trust each other and share what we know.

"The strongest therapeutic outcomes I've seen aren't from one brilliant clinician — they're from a small, trusted circle of clinicians who collaborate around one human."

— Nancy Phung-Smith, LMFT

Collaborative Care

Your therapy is exactly what the integration needs.

Trauma processing opens material. Integration is what makes it durable — and integration belongs in the relationship your client already trusts.

After the intensive, your client returns with reduced reactivity, new somatic awareness, and often a clearer sense of what they want to work on next. You receive a concise clinical summary covering targets addressed, resourcing used, and integration recommendations.

The goal isn't to replace your work. It's to give it more room to land.

For Referring Clinicians

Questions, answered.

Do I need to be EMDR-trained to refer?
No. This referral pathway is designed specifically for therapists who don't practice EMDR, IFS, or Brainspotting but recognize their client could benefit from this work.
Will my client be transferred out of my care?
No. Intensives are explicitly adjunct. Your client continues weekly therapy with you throughout — and especially after — the intensive.
What do I receive after the intensive?
A written clinical summary including targets processed, modalities used, resourcing tools introduced, and integration recommendations for your ongoing sessions.
How long is an intensive?
Formats range from a half-day (3 hours) to multi-day engagements. Length is determined collaboratively during the consultation based on goals and clinical fit.
How do I start a referral?
Book a clinician consultation. We'll discuss the client, assess fit, and determine the most appropriate format together.

Begin a Referral

Let's talk about your client.

Schedule a complimentary 30-minute clinician consultation to discuss fit, goals, and the right format.